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tv   The War Room With Jennifer Granholm  Current  November 7, 2012 9:00pm-10:00pm PST

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reate jobs. the golden years as the conservatives call them, we had the highest tax rates, and the highest amount of growth, and the highest amount of jobs. those are facts. >>"if you ever raise taxes on the rich, you're going to destroy our economy." not true! >> in the hotly contested 8th district tammy duckworth is going to congress. >> we have joe donnelly defeat republican tea party-backed
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richard mourdock. >> dave the screaming behind you is because claire mccaskill was nominated. allan west appears to have lost to his opponent patrick murphy. >> jennifer: last night was just not kind to tea party republicans. four of its most famous faces went down in defeat. michele bachmann eked out a third term but it cost her a pretty penny, actually more than $20 million. she outspent her opponent 12-1 and she only won 50.59% of the vote. in all at least 47 tea party house remembers retained their seethes with the help of obscene amounts of money.
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so where does the gop go from here? tonight we're putting that question to j.d. hayworth and duf sundheim. who is joining me here in studio. i want to thank you both for bringing both ends of the spectrum. j.d. just two years ago, there were 60-newly elected lawmakers who swept into congress and now some of the most prominent among them went down in defeat so did the tea party overreach? >> no not at all. the fact is there is still a substantial majority you mentioned in this introduction jen, that the tea party is alive
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and well much to your chagrin. now 30 of the nation's governors are republicans. i think what we will see, both on capitol hill and at the republican national committee and across the kitchen table, is not self flagellation but a good self assessment, a healthy debate inside the party, understanding that principles endure, but methods may change and we'll have that debate in the days to come. >> jennifer: i'm interested in that. because you represent a different philosophy i think, duf. maybe i should use the world liberal side of the republican party. do you think the tea party overreached? >> we should all be happy about somebody who survived last night, and that's big bird. big bird survived. >> jennifer: whoo!
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>> but with respect to the concept of liberalism democrats and republicans make a major mistake if they think it is about ideology. last night was about listening and counting. the republicans did not count who was voting or listen to the concerns of what the voters were. and you saw some republicans who understood early on we were in trouble -- >> jennifer: meaning the republicans didn't listen to women -- >> women, latinos, asians because we just keep saying we want less government. and then we just leave it out there. what we need to do is take the extra step and say we want government to be a partner, but make it more efficient, and get rid of everything else. the liberal conservative thing is really passe.
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>> jennifer: so j.d. you heard that from somebody who has a more expensive view of the republican party. what is your take on that? >> first of all, i'm not here -- i appreciate we're back to one of the television entertainment things. let's get two republicans together and have them fight. [ laughter ] >> jennifer: i just want to hear from your side. >> could i say a couple of things. let's begin with one common bond and that is the fact for the polling models and turnout we had big problems last night, and we're going to have to learn from that but i think we can all do well regardless of to label or ideology to listen to the american people. but i don't believe the republican party can thrive by
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becoming democrat-like. >> absolutely. >> we have to move forward not in self flagellation but a healthy self assessment and part of this is the function of those elected. >> jennifer: all right. so let me play j.d. a sound bite from rush limbaugh. make a listen first. >> don't tell me the republican party doesn't have outreach. we do. but what are we sup poise to do now? in order to get the hispanic or latino vote, does that mean open the borders and embrace the illegals? >> jennifer: president obama captured almost 70% of the hispanic voters. so do you think rush limbaugh is leading the republicans into
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oblivion with that comment? >> i think which should take a look -- a very thoughtful piece written today by heather mcdonald. when we're talk about family values it doesn't mean that uncle sam becomes a permanent part of the family handing out goodies. we need a thoughtful approach but we need not abandon the rule of law nor our principles to do so -- >> jennifer: but when you are talking about family values and they were raised as an american how is that not amnesty we should allow? >> i think we do need to allow these people to stay. they are the valedictorians and
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star americans, and then to say that they are not americans makes no sense at all. the way we're going to cam back and if we embrace a thoughtful immigration reform policy. and we need to be strong and fair and take leadership and ownership of that issue. the president now supported more people than anybody in the history of this country. >> jennifer: all right, j.d. should -- did you sign the grover norquist no taxes pledge? >> you bet i did. >> jennifer: do you think republicans should continue to sign these pledges blindly? >> there are people who are activists on both sides of the aisle. i do believe raising taxes would
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be a last resort -- >> jennifer: but j.d. i'm talking about pledging signing a pledge saying you will never raise taxes ever no matter what the circumstances are. do you think that is a smart move? >> i tell you what, i was very comfortable signing that pledge -- >> but do you think it's a smart move? >> i think that horse has already left the barn -- >> going forward -- >> there will be increased revenue -- the thing we need to do is get something meaningful in return. >> under clinton when they raised taxes we got welfare reform. i think it should be reducing the deductions -- >> jennifer: which is raising taxes on people. >> but we need something in return. >> jennifer: i agree with that. you guys i'm so sorry we have to
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end this great right on right fight. duf sundheim and j.d. hayworth. up next at attention washington that group of smart, strong competent and
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north dakota heidi heitkamp overcame what were pretty discouraging polls, and way out in hawaii by the time most of us all went to bed, the democrat won a promotion from the house to senate. another woman, deb fisher defeated former senator bob carey. and elsewhere, voters reelected six democratic women to the senate. and this bringing the total number of women senators to an unpress dented 20. joining me now is keli goff she is the political correspondent
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for the root. and the greet christine pelosi, chair of the california democratic party women's caucus. welcome back inside "the war room" to both of you. >> thank you. >> great to be back. >> jennifer: keli let me start with you? are women more excited to see the extremists defeated or to see so many women win? >> that's a tough one, but i would have to say, there seemed d b aotot of c cerergoioi on whenever i would hear a mourdock or akin went down. and those weren't just from women, there were a lot of embarrassed guys that were happy. >> jennifer: there are a lot of moderate men who really are
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embarrassed. christine obviously last night was a great, great night for democrats, and it was because women and people of color provided a great firewall for the president. and that is only going to continue to grow right? >> absolutely. when you look at how the president won, it's president obama and democrats embracing demography as destiny. everybody saw the numbers, but the republican primary stayed pretty much pail, stale, and male. and sitting at the able to at the leadership table, making these decisions are going to be for the first time a
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majority/minority democratic house congress caucus, and fabulous women in the senate who will be voting. >> jennifer: absolutely and this is to you, again, christine. the president won 55% of the female vote. we know the republicans want to chip back into that. we hear it some at least think they have to change. how do democrats hang on to that? >> legislate. let's do three things. veteran's day is on sunday so showcase our women. two female military soldiers just elected. talk to the women who just got elected, the working moms who
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want to promote jobs. that's what we need to do. >> jennifer: all right. so keli according to the analysis from the center of research and learning if governor romney had won half -- i'm flipping to the youth vote or if millennials didn't vote in several states at all, the states would have flipped red. >> i read a column a couple of months ago, long before this whole conspiracy theory started taking over the nation. polling methodology today is still basically set up to undercount people who look like me.
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it's also low income people and the reason that is the case because most polling is done by phone land lines. how many young people do you know have phone land loans? so i was looking at this data and interviewing pollsters who were acknowledging if you are polling for a race in a retirement community in florida, your number also probably be pretty accurate. so that's why i wasn't completely stunned that the turned out in bigger numbers than anticipated. i interviewed lisa butterfield jones, and she say she wasn't surprised at all. because there wasn't this enthusiasm gap that the rest of
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the media was covering all year long. >> jennifer: christine and keli are going to stay right where you are. after the break, progressives winning on social issues across the board and in states all across the country. we're finally dragging >>i jump out of my skin at people when i'm upset. they're doing this this corruption based on corruption based on corruption. >>that's an understatement, eliot. [ forsythe ] we don't just come up here for the view up in alaska. it's the cleanest, clearest water. we find the best sweetest crab for red lobster that we can find. [ male announcer ] hurry in to red lobster's crabfest! the only time of year you can savor 5 succulent crab entrees all under 20 dollars. like a half-pound of tender snow crab paired with savory grilled shrimp, just 12.99. or our hearty crab and roasted garlic seafood bake. [ forsythe ] if i wouldn't put it on my table at home, i wouldn't bring it in. my name's jon forsythe
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in front of same-sex marriage. and in massachusetts, a measure to allow medical marijuana also won, but voters in oregon and arkansas went the other way and just said no. back with us to see what kind of progressive politics will play in the president's second term are correspondent keli goff and christine pelosi, chair of the california democratic party women's caucus. christine let me start with you, president obama, progressive issues he should tackle. >> health care and climate change. we have to ensure that we actually get the health care that was promised under
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obamacare. make sure the state exchanges were set up. also in keeping with that it means fulfilling the promise to medicare and medicaid. we have to live healthier eyes and make sure our kids are covered. number two, climate. mother nature has spoken. we must listen. >> jennifer: i totally agree, kelly if you were to take the top two issues, what would it be? >> i'm going to pick chun. i would say civil rights particularly as it pertains to african-americans. it's not a secret that the president and his administration have shied away of using the
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word book. he is half white, but app pair roanly they missed that little detail. but his administration has really shied away from that. a lot of the republicans talk about the disappointment but they acknowledged that it was really hard to talk about the issues. >> like what? >> there is still very mef i have race-based discrimination when it comes to interviews. a white man with a criminal record is more substantially likely to get a callback than the black man.
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we very rarely hear the president talk about affirmative action. but we want to see that changed in the second term. >> jennifer: going back to christine, the specifics on how toe create jobs what congress can do. if you look at jobs for example, creating clean-energy jobs in urban areas. he has got to pass legislation to be able to do that. the question is can he get that done? >> i think he can. if you are talking about building infrastructure jobs that will help black males, that
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is something that the nature of labor agree on. >> jennifer: right. and there should be bipartisan support on that. >> there should be. but we have to seize the jobs and there must be a commitment to doing that. >> jennifer: can we get republican support for addressing that in urban areas, and that will be the question of the president's leadership in the second term. you guys thank you so much for being here. christine and keli it's a good day in the kingdom, we'll say. up next karl rove promised the balance of power and then he took their
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then for some reason they moved them down the hall. they are way down the hall. we'll do a little interrogation. here are the -- guys -- this is the decision desk. now we're in the heart of the decision-desk room. you head this place up, chris, you have been doing the number crunching, you tell me whether you stand on your call in ohio. >> we're quite comfortable with the call in ohio. >> jennifer: and there in karl rove had a meltdown poor thing. they are actually losing their minds. bad for them. good for us. someone is always in our war room. check us out at current.com/thewarroom. thank you so much for joining us here in "the war room." hope you have a great night. and we'
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